In an interview with ABC’s George Stephanopolous, President Donald Trump said he didn’t feel he would have to contact the FBI if a foreign government offered him campaign dirt on whoever he faces in 2020, and overruled his own FBI director who said Donald Trump Jr. should’ve contacted the FBI when he was contacted by the Russians with an offer of campaign dirt.

“There’s nothing wrong with listening,” Trump said, according to Politico. “If someone called from a country — Norway — we have information on your opponent. Oh, I think I’d want to hear it.”

John A. Tures is a professor of political science at LaGrange College in Georgia. He can be reached at jtures@lagrange.edu. His Twitter account is @JohnTures2.